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Matthew Gilligan

Tax Changes - Are you making a mistake with LTCs

Many of our clients come to us because they are not getting advice or they are not satisfied with advice they are receiving from other accountants.  In recent times the tax changes introduced by the National Government regarding property investors have created quite a stir and presented some challenges to investors in regard to making a decision as to whether to (a) convert their LAQC (Loss Attributing Qualifying Company) to a Look Through Company (LTC); (b) remain a QC (ie LAQC without ability to attribute losses); (c) revert to "ordinary" company status; or (d) migrate out of the company into individual ownership of the assets.

As a practice we have found varying levels of advice from our peers.  On occasion we have been somewhat disappointed for investors with the level of advice they have been receiving, and in this vein I introduce a number of common issues which we discuss with clients that we hope will assist you in making a decision as to whether to turn your LAQC into an LTC or follow an alternative path.  If any of these questions are not answered in your affairs, you are welcome to contact GRA and book a no obligation review of your LTC and get some answers to these quite tricky questions.

  1. Quick overview of the changes – what should you be thinking about

With the introduction of the new LTC regime, LAQCs lose their loss flow through from 1 April 2011.  This puts you in a position where you will not be able to get tax refunds if your portfolio is negatively geared for tax.  In addition to losing loss flow through with LAQCs, depreciation has been removed from buildings from 1 April 2011.  For many investors that are near to breakeven cashflow in the current environment the removal of depreciation claims on buildings will see them tax neutral - rather than producing a tax loss.  For this reason they may consider not electing to become a Look Through Company and instead remaining a qualifying company or reverting to ordinary company status.

Against the reduction of depreciation claims as a result of the tax changes, is the artificially low interest rate currently being enjoyed by many investors with floating interest rates near to 5.75%.  The average 10 year interest rate in New Zealand is around 7.25% and investors are better to be planning for such rate in planning their long term cashflow and tax position and when making the decision as to whether to become an LTC or not.  If for example you currently have $500,000 worth of debt in your company/LAQC, your interest rate is 5.75%, each incremental increase in interest rates of 1% will cause you to pay another $5,000 of interest potentially causing you to become tax negative.  If interest rates spike up above the 10 year average investors could be paying a lot more than this at certain parts of the interest rate cycle and in such a higher interest rate environment they will be seeking to access the tax losses and without being a Look Through Company may not be able to do this. 

  1. Common advice around the country varies.

It interests the writer that different practitioners in different regions in New Zealand seem to be giving different advice.  In the smaller towns around the country we have seen one view prevailing that investors are better to avoid the complications of Look Through Companies and simply use the transition rules provided under the new legislation to move assets from your company to individual ownership or partnership ownership.  In our view this is short-sighted because you end up paying conveyancing cost twice.  Firstly, because you need to transfer the assets physically and refinance with your banker when you make such a transition from an LAQC to individual / partnership ownership.  Secondly, later when you ultimately seek asset protection over your assets, you will then need to convey the titles again to a Family Trust which results in double conveyancing cost, whereas in LTC you can simply shift the shares and avoid conveyancing cost completely.

The alternative view therefore is to simply fill in a form and send it to the IRD electing to be a Look Through Company.  Such election magically converts your LAQC to be the new structure known as the LTC.  The LTC status then allows you to claim losses as if the assets were owned individually by the shareholders. In other words the IRD treat the LTC as being "transparent" for tax purposes and allow you to claim the tax losses - subject to deduction limitation rules.  These deduction limitation rules essentially require you to have real assets exposed to the company in order to get access to your tax losses.  For example if your company is 100% financed and you have personally guaranteed the debt, in theory you should be able to get your tax losses out as you formerly did with an LAQC.  However, IRD limit the deduction which you can get out of the company to being a combination of cash introduced to fund the losses and guarantees given by the shareholders to the company to support the banking facilities.  However, if such guarantees are not supported by real assets, the deduction limitation rules may not allow the shareholder to claim all of the losses of the LTC. 

I realise this sounds a bit complicated and the reality is that it is complicated - and the IRD are not forthcoming in resolving some of the uncertainties.  In the end, the best I con do in terms of simplifying is to say if you fund cash losses in a company you automatically get full flow through of such losses.  If you have losses in the company that you haven't funded, for example losses from chattels deprecation, you need to have either an existing shareholder current account to take the loss out of the company or a guarantee provided to the banker that is supported by real assets within your group.  For most investors the deduction limitation rules will not be an issue in our opinion and therefore while rather complex to get your head around, in practical terms an LTC will provide for loss flow through and will become the new stable investment vehicle for property investors who are negatively geared for tax, just as the LAQC was.  Long term benefits of LTCs just as you could with an LAQC, are flexibility in the transfer of the owner of the asset because you can simply shift the shares of the company and thereby shift the underlying assets.  For example, if one spouse owns 100% of the shares of the property LTC, and enters into divorce proceedings.  If that spouse chose under the divorce proceedings to transfer the rental properties to their spouse, such assets could be transferred with a share transfer rather than paying for conveyancing cost.

This gives rise to one downside of LTCs which was not there for LAQCs, that being the issue of depreciation recovered.  Depreciation recovered occurs where the disposal value of an asset is greater than the book value, and such asset has been depreciated.  For example, if you have claimed depreciation on buildings and chattels life to date and you transfer a rental property to another person, then where the disposal value is at least original cost you end up paying tax on the depreciation you have claimed life to date.

Moving to the LTC point, because LTCs are transparent for tax purposes where you shift the shares of the company you are deemed to be shifting the underlying assets themselves.  You therefore have a disposal for tax purposes creating the potential for depreciation recovered.  This was not the case with LAQCs and is therefore a disadvantage of an LTC, but exactly the same disadvantage exists with general partnership or individual ownership of assets.

On balance we therefore like the Look Through Company structure over the alternative forms of investment being individual ownership or partnership ownership, for negatively geared investors.  By negatively geared the writer means negative for tax purposes. 

  1. Common issues we see.
Advisors not looking at asset protection when transitioning assets. 

When considering whether to trade as a partnership or a Look Through Company as two options that are commonly reviewed in the transition of LAQCs, one thing you should have your eye on is how will you protect your assets over Trust over time.  The ultimate outcome you should be seeking is good asset protection structures while achieving tax efficiency.  Tax efficiency looks at a number of different things but clearly if you have got tax losses emanating from your portfolio, you need to make sure your tax losses are accessible to the person or entity that earns the money such that you can get tax refunds and utilise the losses.  While a sole trader ownership or partnership ownership of the assets directly obviously gives personal access to the losses, it does make asset protection nigh on impossible because how do you get the equity into a Trust without conveying the title?  

With a Look Through Company you can acknowledge a debt for any equity advanced to the company or recognise capital growth within the company and declare a capital dividend resulting in a shareholder current account for unrealised gains, which can then be assigned to a Family Trust which thereafter provides for asset protection.  In other words you can distribute the capital gain from an LTC to the shareholders, assign that to a Trust and gift it into a Trust to achieve asset protection over the assets, while continuing to enjoy accessing the tax losses - subject to the limitations outlined above.  In this way your legal goals of asset protection is being achieved as well as your tax planning goals of accessing the tax losses.  The alternative of individual / partnership ownership does not achieve any asset protection and therefore is an inferior option in our practice's view.  LTCs are much better for asset protection and provide the tax benefits. 

If your advisor has given a different view and you would like to discuss this with us, CLICK HERE for an interview.

  • Who should own the shares? 

With LAQCs a typical shareholding structure was 99/1 in favour of the higher income earning spouse.  This was common in the investment property community and allowed the payment of a shareholder salary to the homemaking spouse where that spouse is managing the rental portfolio.  Such salary must be market value for work actually done and could be declared at year end.  The result was the spouse receiving the salary and being subject to a lower tax rate than the spouse getting the loss from the company.  A tax advantage emerged where normally the taxpayer would claim 33% tax on the salary while the homemaking spouse only paid perhaps, say, 11% on receipt of the salary.   

With Look Through Companies any salary paid must be subject to PAYE, shareholder salaries are not possible.  Secondly, where the salary is paid to an owner of an LTC engaged in property investment or trading such salary is non-deductible to the company (yet it is assessable revenue to the spouse).  For this reason it would be ludicrous to pay a salary in such circumstances. 

Where an investor does want to remunerate the work done of a spouse, they will only be able to do it and gain some sort of tax effectiveness from it where the spouse is not a shareholder in the company.  Therefore we believe it will become common practice for the previous 99/1 structure to become 100% held by the working spouse and the homemaking spouse will not hold any shares whatsoever.  This will enable spouse salaries paid on PAYE if the investors wish to do this, provided that it is market value for work actually done, a written employment contract is put in place and the other abovementioned factors are satisfied.

  • What about debt deductibility? 

A common issue we see with accountants and advisors talking about choice of structure and LTCs with their clients is they fail to look at the long term issue of debt deductibility.  Common problems with debt deductibility that we see are the mixing of private debt with business debt, leading to business debt not being deductible.  This becomes particularly problematic where the family home is held by the partnership alongside the rental investments.  Separation of the rental investments in an LTC, with the home held in

Matthew Gilligan
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